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by Holly on March 9, 2011 at 12:00 am
Chapter: 5-Chapter Five
  • Jamming

    Can I, not kill a tree? Actually I really could care less about the tree, I rather just donate to you two’s new place. Drew has found honest work and doesn’t have to sell body parts and plasma anymore, congratulations. Oh wait scratch honest, he works for a telco. :p 😉

    (You two know I am just showing the love)

  • AKADivya

    Poor O’Shea being picked on! No worries O’Shea The Divya has faith in your ability to be badass. That, you might have to stop a catfight. Then the choice will be which girl to hit. Fun times!

    @Holly ‘n Drew – Good luck and have fun while home shopping! I’ll just settle back down in lurkdom during the hiatus.

  • Lazy Jesus

    Woo Hoo for a new house congrats you guys

    i agree with Divya i support O’Shea and really Rei needs to be taken down a peg or two
    too smugh and arrogant for my tastes lol

  • AKADivya

    Now what would be really, really fun is if Alexis is the one who takes Rei down a peg or two. We don’t know the extent of her combat skills but she did get Agrippa by surprise, maybe she can do the same to Rei?

  • Gillsing

    Sythentics or synthetics?

    And I suspect that he’ll be plenty missed, they just don’t know it yet. 😉

  • sinesofinsanity

    Not to be too harsh or anything, but I had just figured that by this point in the future, what with the approximately equal numbers of male as female fighters we saw on the Earth base, people would be over the whole “I can’t hit girls” thing. I mean, it’s sweet and all to choose not to be aggressive toward someone who is physically weaker than you, but it’s one thing to say “I don’t hit girls”, another to say “I don’t hit women,” and completely another to say “I don’t normally hit women, and would prefer not to. As you are clearly a highly trained combat soldier from a race which is more physically advanced than mine, I’m sure you understand my hesitation.” Or it’s equivalent: “Can I hit you?” Considering Grey’s history, he’s probably met more than a couple women in his life who could cause him severe physical damage in a fair fight or otherwise. Where is his hesitation to train with a girl coming from? Has he somehow advanced this far in the Terran military without ever training with female soldiers before? If he maybe comes from a more conservative colony planet that might work?

  • http://www.terra-comic.com Holly

    I gotta disagree. Grey is a character, he’s supposed to act like a real person, and real people don’t always say things that are politically correct.

    Also, the fact that he doesn’t want to hit a girl shouldn’t be seen as offensive, that’s just his personal stance on the matter. It’s called chivalry, and I’d like to think in the future it could still be around lol.

    @Gillsing: Oops, thanks :) I must have read that word like three times and couldn’t see that it was spelled wrong, how that hell did I manage that…lol.

  • spas

    i like his initial inclination toward chivalry. i bet he’s going to hit her in training, though!

    re: advertising, a few well-placed link trades might do terra a world of good. crimson dark, wayward sons, marooned, feywinds, for example. sci-fi and fantasy comics would trade links with you. dreamland might give you a major boost with a front-page link if you did a guest comic for him – he always needs a bit of buffer.

  • AKADivya

    The Divya sees no problem with O’Shea not wanting to hit women. I’m willing to bet he’d hit back if he had too, but if given a choice he’d decline. Maybe men on earth 200+ years in the future have solved the problem of domestic violence, peer pressure towards violence, and rid themselves of violence towards others in the media and people are better off for it? The story time line isn’t right now, but in the future. Cultural ideals/morals/beliefs change. Usually its a slow change but hey, 200+ years is a long time. Maybe he isn’t from an isolated colony but from the heart of a enlightened civilization. Or maybe The Divya is full of hot air and is ranting.

  • http://www.terra-comic.com Holly

    @spas: I agree about the link exchange idea. I really need to do more networking, I’m sure it could help out a lot with traffic. Although I read Dreamland’s FAQ and they stated they only link to family friendly comics (no gore/swearing etc) so that wouldn’t work.

    I’ll check out those other sites you recommended :). Though,I have to admit I feel a little intimidated when asking big name webcomics for link exchanges. Always worth a shot, I guess.

  • Torbjörn Larsson, OM

    Ha. I told you this would happen!

    @ sinesofinsanity: I see what you mean. But at the same time your description of diversity in a large universe points to the interpretation that there isn’t as much agreement on the societal level. (If the army discipline bothers you, you can always pose that different outfits retain diversity.)

    Also, it is a war, which implies conservatism for safety and whatnot.

    As for Grey, I have a slightly different take than Holly. Adding to that, Grey was a sniper. As many dramas tells us they are cocky in character. Assumedly Grey likes to train and act on his own and/or in an apprenticeship, or he would not have leaned towards his original fighter specialty in the first place.

  • sinesofinsanity

    @Holly, not so much that Grey would act in a way which is politically correct, but that it wouldn’t occur to him to need to be. For instance, most racist people in the world today think slavery is bad. There are different levels of cultural acceptability. I was thinking that 200+ years in the future, based on where we are now, while Grey might still not want to hit an average girl, he should see nothing wrong with hitting a soldier girl/combat woman, particularly one from a species which he knows is physically superior.

    @Larsson, generally, in a war is when diversity shines because everybody is needed regardless of cultural norms for who-should-do-what. Which is why there were women in factories in WWII. I’ll agree that Grey as a cocky sniper makes this work, I’d also noticed that Grey’s troupe seemed to have more men in it than women, which suggested his troupe at least to be a bit more backward.

    I suppose my main issue stems from the fact that Grey knows Azatoth train harder and are naturally physically stronger than humans. Additionally, he spent the first 20+ years of his life fitting all Azatoth into one category and all humans into another. Why would his sexual prejudices beat out his lifetime of racial prejudices? ( esp considering, based on modern patterns where sexual issues are on the way out faster than other prejudices, and would therefore be likely almost-missing by the time of this comic)

  • http://www.terra-comic.com Holly

    @sinesofinsanity: I know it’s the future, but I still think a infantry unit would be mostly men, especially a mobile infantry unit like Grey’s. I was in the military for 5 years and let me tell you, women were VASTLY outnumbered. I was once on a course where I was the only girl out of say, 25 troops. While I see those numbers changing in the next couple hundred years, I still think men will generally outnumber women. It’s not really a cultural statement or anything, I’m just basing it off my past experience. Also cockiness with men in the military is not limited to snipers, you can trust me on that :P.

    As for the strength issue, in the military while you are (generally) treated as an equal in every way, there are obvious strength limitations with being a girl, that’s why our physical fitness standards are different. As a soldier when you have a weapon in your hand, those physical limitations aren’t an issue (I heard countless times that women were naturally better shooters :D), however, when you are doing hand-to-hand combat, or tossing a 200 pound man out of the back of a truck (I did this one on an exercise, and DROPPED him, lol) you start to notice those limitations. I have to say that this doesn’t apply to everyone, of course it depends on the individual, there were plenty of men that couldn’t pull their weight, believe me.

    I just wanted to add my two cents on that whole equality in the military issue. I still feel it isn’t Grey questioning her strengths as a fighter, he just doesn’t think it’s polite to hit a woman. That’s literally the only reason I had :P.

  • http://www.terra-comic.com Drew

    I have another thing to add to why Grey said he wont hit a woman. His Mother and Father are Irish and religious, he was raised on a Mining community on Mercury which is pretty isolated. He was raised to always respect women and to be chivalrous. This has nothing to do with Rei being an Alien, the future, or anything. Its all based on how Grey was raised and how his character is.

    He has no problems with Aliens that’s one of the reasons why he joined the resistance he was just ignorant when he was in the military, he has no hatred for the Azatoth as a species.

    When you guys see Grey say something it wont always be politically correct, nice, fair, etc all he can be is himself and that’s what you get in this page, Grey being Grey…..its really that simple.

  • http://zimriel.blogspot.com/ Zimriel

    At least he didn’t say something like “I’ll have her pants off by the end of the week” this time. Character arc!

  • http://zimriel.blogspot.com/ Zimriel

    Yeah, I’ve heard that women make better snipers too. Weber’s “1632” made that claim.

  • This guy

    Nice to immediately know when this comic was made.